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Post by chada II » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:30 am

I am sorry to announce that I am forced to break from chain because of delays in swearing around. I was gonna try and be patient but my gaming is being put on hold because of others. I am sorry and I hope my small contributions to chain and monarchy will outweigh my hasty decision.
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I Apologize.

Post by chada II » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:01 am

I want to Apologize to anyone that has be affected by my decision. I was informed of the reason for delay in move and am truly sorry for only thinking of myself. I know this breaking has messed up alot of people. :( :( I am sorry.
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Post by Muneman » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:16 am

Sorry doesnt cut it. The need of the many out weigh the need of the few or the one. My vote is for you never to return to the chain for your selfish behavior, hopefully the other managers will agree. :!: :!: :!:

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Post by chada II » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:26 am

You are entiltled to your opinion but the few that know in this monarchy know that I would never intentionally hurt anyone or do anything to hurt this monarchy.Your brashness is uncalled for. I acted in haste because I wanted it done without thinking. You don't even know me to condemn me to such a fate, but whatever the decision. I do apologize.
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Post by Panzerfaust » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:36 am

Chada, by breaking the chain, you are in fact banned from any LD chain. There is absolutely no excuse for breaking the chain intentionally. We are also obligated to post this on the VNs, so the other chain managers know that this potential exists in you. For a chain that gave you the grand majority of your total XP, you repay it by breaking.

This doesn't mean you are banned from LD, just any LD chain.
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Post by Vlad » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:09 am

Chada you could have a little bit of patience

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Post by TUSAMI » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:43 am

oops
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Post by TUSAMI » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:47 am

I'm sorry Chada II but you could have been a little more respectful to us before you decided to break.
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Post by chada II » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:47 am

wow people that never even said HI to me Ig got sumtin to say. Do what ya got to do. lets drag it in the mudd. I remember a while back someone in same situation got blackballed for same actions I just took, remember PEE-WEE. Ok so IM banned from LD chains. Funny hmm guess I just sat on my arse and leeched xp huh. :shock: In exchange for xp in CC i made my tink mule available to all in monarchy,hmm how many people have I tinked stuff for and wouldn't even accpet payment or gave back a payment that was given?? How many Noobs have I helped since being in LD with giving of tinked armors and weps and in turn those same things were done for me by others. So lets not make it into a Chada is a horrible person flame him till he burns thread. I earned my xp nothing was given to me. I could understand if I broke without warning or posting removal but I did all these things. I'm sorry Oof was out I didn't know all this till after it was done but I posted more than once for removal.
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Post by Oof » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:20 am

Chada said:
the few that know in this monarchy know that I would never intentionally hurt anyone or do anything to hurt this monarchy.
The fact of the matter is that you did intentionally hurt the monarchy by breaking the chain. I'm sure it wasn't your desire to cause harm to the people you left behind, but the fact is that you caused some damage in the way you left, and now that damage will have to be repaired by others.

There is nothing personal in my post here to you, and I am not flaming you; however, the rules about breaking the chain are just that, the rules. Every chain has them and most of the major chains post whenever someone breaks the chain.

It isn't all about XP, though that certainly is part of it. Whenever someone breaks a chain they are "hijacking" the XP that is coming up from the people below them and cutting it off from the people above in the chain. Even if you broke from your patron and also cut your chain vassal loose (which you may have, I haven't checked) so you weren't still getting the XP, you still took away XP from all of the people who used to be above you in the chain.

Depending on where you were in the chain you also broke the rank mule away from people higher up, which affects their ability to use certain items ingame.

Breaking also cuts all of the people below you off from access to the mansion until they are able to get sworn back in to someone in the monarchy. Often, what happens is people panic a little bit and break on their own as soon as they see they aren't in LD anymore, and then we sometimes spend weeks putting everything back together again.

All of the above are some of the reasons people get agitated whenever a chain break occurs, and I honestly can't blame anyone for getting angry about it.

Yes, your removal should have been handled in a timely way. I was out of town and have been behind the eight ball ever since getting back. The other chain managers have RL situations that arise too and unfortunately it sometimes takes longer than any of us wish to get something done.

If I were to ever break the chain I would fully expect to be put on the chain breakers list and also expect people to vent at me for breaking the chain. So far, the posts have been kinder than usual, and that's probably due to the apologetic tone of your first post. With you referencing when Pee-Wee left, you shouldn't be surprised to find that people aren't happy whenever someone breaks the chain. I haven't seen anyone saying you're a bad person, just that they're unhappy and that you probably won't be trusted not to break someone else's chain should you feel the "need" arise to exit again.
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Post by Panzerfaust » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:22 am

The fact is Chada, you inconvenienced hundreds and hundreds or people. Most of which have no vested interest in the chain, but in the clan. You're not banned from the clan, just the chains. We don't allow people that break other chains, nor our own. It's huge undertaking to repair. I know that I personally have spent an hour of my own time trying to clean it up. It's not meant to be as much of a punishment as to protect the chain from this in the future.
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Post by Vlad » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:37 am

Chada can u tinker my stuff? rofl nah nah Next time Chada just think before you do it. I know you are a mature adult to have patience and consider about others.

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Post by chada II » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:26 am

The reference as a chain breaker is what personally hurts my feelings the most.Yes I broke chain but, I have been in this clan for a while and have left the chain 3-4 times b4 this and always waited till I was swore around one time it took 2 weeks to get done. I didnt break and continue to leech from bottom of chain I broke from patron and vassals.whether it was right or wrong is not in question. I realize how much damage I may have caused by my actions and once again I apologize and can't say it enough. This is my last post on this subject because the clan rules are the rules and I don't expect to be an exception to those rules. I am not a chain breaker in the sense that chain breaker is used on VN. I broke from A chain. only time ever. I have never broke from a patron nor a chain till now without notice and Patience.
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Post by LrdKimo » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:44 pm

i would like to say, that this break did effect me as i was sworn below chada, but on the same page in the past chada has done some excellant things (i know he gave my newb a really nice imbued xbow, i never asked, he just thought i might need it :) ) while it does suck that chada broke, i can understand if he had to wait an extended period to get out fof the chain, and if he has other things ingame hed like to do, im sure he waited as long as he felt he could. I dont think its fair to condemn him for a chain break, ive seen worse things done by a panz member :)

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Post by Oof » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:53 pm

We aren't condemning her [edited to change "him" to "her" :oops:] Lrd Kimo. We are, however, following the standard procedure we always follow when someone breaks a chain. I understand that Chada waited a while for removal. Chada made a decision to break the chain, broke the chain, and, now has certain consequences because of that. Chada will only be affected by the consequences of breaking the chain should she decide to re-join one of our chains. She welcome to be a clan member, to hunt, to quest, to hang out and mansion and chat, etc. The rules are what they are though, and chain breakers aren't allowed in the LD chains, nor in most of the other major chains on the server.
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