wimp low failing by 27 million?

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:03 am

I am not sure how this is even possible since his leadership and loyalty have been buffed at all times. I would expect him to be right at the 93.7 rate or a bit higher than that.

Any thoughts how he could have fallen this far behind in a no quota chain when leader and loyal are properly buffed?

Loyalty is buffed at 257, leadership buffs to 100 with 12 vassals makes it effective leadership of 190.

Wimp Lo

DL · Post by DL » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:25 pm

Has it been a while since you uploaded? Were you in upload state before you did? Do you upload at least once per week?

Just curious because a while ago the same thing happened to my Kazene and when I asked here on the board NO ONE could answer...in fact no one even responded to my post. So I thought I'd ask you these things and see if they might contribute to a character in a No Quota, with over 200 Loyalty and maxed/over 200 Leadership failing.

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:28 pm

20031228081514 6576232695 4096463662 4155331876 Wimp Low
20031228040244 6554431465 4090710665 4152715653 Wimp Low
20031228034554 6505301286 4089904409 4151855647 Wimp Low
20031222044620 6504305499 4053056600 4113138645 Wimp Low

Raw data...

Info on how to interpret it,

http://www.lastdynasty.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=7810

Phade · Post by **Phade** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:34 pm

Zat dreams in Binary

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:45 pm

Hmm, for a 15 day period you need one more data point

20031228081514 6576232695 4096463662 4155331876 Wimp Low
20031228040244 6554431465 4090710665 4152715653 Wimp Low
20031228034554 6505301286 4089904409 4151855647 Wimp Low
20031222044620 6504305499 4053056600 4113138645 Wimp Low
20031213075815 6425787072 4032568443 4061000777 Wimp Low

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:51 pm

Total increase = 6576232695 - 6425787072 = 150445623
Vassal received = 4155331876 - 4061000777 = 94331099
Patron passup = 4096463662 - 4032568443 = 63895219

20031228081514 6576232695 4096463662 4155331876 Wimp Low
20031228040244 6554431465 4090710665 4152715653 Wimp Low
20031228034554 6505301286 4089904409 4151855647 Wimp Low
20031222044620 6504305499 4053056600 4113138645 Wimp Low * Between these two points
20031213075815 6425787072 4032568443 4061000777 Wimp Low * is the problem....

You must have had leadership unbuffed, perhaps when doing tinkers?

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:21 pm

Not a chance naka. I spent a chunk of the last 3 weeks out of the chain due to a break that ssj and I got fixed just last weekend I think. Since he pledged to me I have updated twice to ac stats, I think, and I have not hunted wimp low at all during that time. When I logged him in today after being gone most of this last week it showed the shortage.

He also still had 30 minutes on his level 7 buffs with leadership buffed to 100 and 12 vassals and loyalty at 257 buffed.

Something is not adding up.

Wimp Lo

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:31 pm

Just for further clarification, Wimp Low is only logged in to actually hunt or to update acstats. I don't log him in otherwise. He does not do any tinking for me at all.

Wimp Tinker does most of my tinking although wimp lo does item tinking for me. When I am tinking with these two I always buff myself so that I am sure I buff the tink skills, magic buffing skills, and my allegiance buffs. I don't take the chance of someone else buffing me since they often dont cover all the spells I want.

I know leadership and loyalty were buffed for wimp low at all times during the time period in question.

I looked at the other post you referenced for clarifciation on the numbers but I am afraid it didn't make much sense to me. Is there some sort of glitch where due to the chain break and then not updating for 8 days (I update on saturday mornings typically and it was Sunday for todays update) that something could be messed up? Again, I did not hunt low during this time so it should not be related to that.

I did hunt low this morning for an hour after seeing the shortfall and reduced it to about 25 million but still have a long way to go.

Wimp Lo

Post by **Panzerfaust** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:36 pm

It may have been updates from when you were out of the chain that made the numbers goofy. I'll bet they go back to normal in a couple weeks if not sooner.

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:38 pm

the point that the failure is showing includes the days when the chain break happened and wimp low was not even in the chain from at least 12-18 to 12-22 when ssj and I got it fixed.

I set my key vassal then and updated to acstats at that point, however it did not update the CC list, only the clan list at that point.

Could there be something within this that would have goofed things up?

Wimp Lo

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:39 pm

thanks panz, I will try to hunt to help them come back up, sorry I am being a posting fool here.

Wimp Lo

Nakamuro Zataki · Post by **Nakamuro Zataki** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:16 pm

Ah, you were without a chain patron? That explains it.

What happens is you get xp from your vassal, but the patron field does not increment (since you have no patron). This is probably the cause of your numbers, because I did a calculation without the oldest datapoint and then you were above quota.

So dont worry. Also for future reference, it helps if you upload atleast once when you do not have a patron (if it is for a extended period of time), because then the database would have been able to handle the situation.

Wimp Lo · Post by **Wimp Lo** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:41 pm

thanks for the help

Wimp Lo